It's not important how I ended up on a PT Cruiser forum, but...

"Bryan doesn't drive a 1M" (bryantakespictures)
08/23/2019 at 11:45 • Filed to: None

I found this quote to be funny :

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It’s from !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! where there is a discussion about replacing the PT-Cruiser steering wheel with one fr om a Neon SRT-4. The 2 steering wheels in question look like this:

DISCUSSION (31)

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
08/23/2019 at 11:54

Honestly, the PT wheel is kind of neat for the early 2000's .

MonkeePuzzle > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
08/23/2019 at 11:54

both are negative moves. and ugly. and generic.

412GTI > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
08/23/2019 at 12:00

#JustBoomerThings??

fintail > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
08/23/2019 at 12:06

I was going to say, I prefer the PT wheel. 20 years later it has actually aged fairly well.

Cash Rewards > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
08/23/2019 at 12:12

I don't know, I kinda want to know how you got there

2Fast2Furious: Rotary Powered > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
08/23/2019 at 12:16

Ahh, my favorite. A comparison of two bad choices with no good answers

CalzoneGolem > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
08/23/2019 at 12:16

The outer door handles are also really nice with a really satisfying big button.

Ash78, voting early and often > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
08/23/2019 at 12:21

3-spoke wheels are the pointless trend for today. 4-spokes Uber Alles!

9 and 3 for sport; 5 and 7 for cruising.

Wrist on 12 for balling.

and 100 more > 412GTI
08/23/2019 at 12:24

Boomerspeak:

“I like this thing! But I can’t accept that other people have opinions that don’t align with mine! And their opinions sometimes make me question my own tastes and preferences! So I state things as though they are facts in order to shut down dialogue about things that I am too tired to argue about!”

Yes, the exclamation points are necessary.

412GTI > and 100 more
08/23/2019 at 12:28

I’m exhausted after reading that lol!

fintail > and 100 more
08/23/2019 at 12:43

And lots of ellipsis...

You know what I mean.......

WilliamsSW > MonkeePuzzle
08/23/2019 at 13:03

We’re talking about PT Cruisers here. All of the moves are negative, except for the move where you never buy one to begin with.

WilliamsSW > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
08/23/2019 at 13:04

Oh, I think it’s quite important to know how you ended up on a PT Cruiser forum...

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > Cash Rewards
08/23/2019 at 13:42

Only Google knows that secret

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > WilliamsSW
08/23/2019 at 13:43

Who can explain the mysteries of the universe?

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
08/23/2019 at 13:54

So only a phone call and a few dollars away then?!

Chariotoflove > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
08/23/2019 at 14:09

So when do we hear about your new-to-you PT Cruiser?

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > Chariotoflove
08/23/2019 at 15:01

Ha, don’t think so. It was a result of my Neon-related searching followed by some morbid curiosity .

Chariotoflove > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
08/23/2019 at 15:03

That’s pretty morbid, my friend.

But I’ll let you in on a secret if you promise not to tell the rest. I not only think the PT Cruiser isn’t a bad car, I think it’s kinda jalop in its own contrarian way.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > fintail
08/23/2019 at 15:05

Compared to pretty much everyone except some exotics and BMW, it’s aged very well.

fintail > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
08/23/2019 at 16:32

It kind of reminds me of the Z8 steering wheel.

ranwhenparked > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
08/23/2019 at 21:49

The fact that DaimerChrysler allowed their designers to spend money on a unique steering wheel, unique exterior door handles, and unique HVAC vents (among other pieces) on a cheap, entry level small car was a very unusual move for a domestic automaker at the time.

ranwhenparked > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
08/23/2019 at 21:50

You were on a PT Cruiser forum? Was there a hit counter at the top?

Answer me this: was it listed as being part of a web ring?

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > ranwhenparked
08/23/2019 at 21:55

Haha, it’s the standard forum template, but the URL is ptcruiserlinks.com, which sounds incredibly modern.

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > ranwhenparked
08/23/2019 at 21:57

It actually is pretty amazing, and they sold better than any Chrysler since (I did not research that claim). Kudos to them for trying something different. The interior is not really "good" but it's special.

Thor Odinson > ranwhenparked
08/23/2019 at 22:00

Daimler wasn’t involved until 2006. The 1st-gen PTs were just a Chrysler product, designed by Brian Nesbitt, who left Chrysler around the same time Daimler acquired them, and got a sweeter gig by moving to GM/Chevy, creating the Chevy HHR, Chevy’s version of the PT. 1ST-Gen Cruisers are actually built well, especially 2003-2005. It’s the 2nd-gen Cruisers that are shit, because, although they were still selling, Daimler didn’t want to put any more money into them.

(Disclosure: I'm a "boomer", and I've owned 2 2004 PTs, and will, at some point, buy me a convertible within those years, at a decent price)

ranwhenparked > Thor Odinson
08/23/2019 at 22:56

Daimler purchased Chrysler in 1998 and the PT Cruiser launched in 2000 for the 2001 model year, so they most certainly were involved. While the basic design itself was probably largely frozen in 1998/1999, there certainly were a lot of details left to meddle with. One of which was the actual badge on the car, since Chrysler Corp. had intended to sell it as a Plymouth, a brand Daimler immediately decided to phase out, causing it to become a Chrysler. Daimler sold a controlling stake in Chrysler to Cerberus in 2007, so 2006 would have been the tail end of their involvement, not the beginning.

ranwhenparked > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
08/23/2019 at 23:01

Chrysler-Plymouth dealers in Southern California had waiting lists for them because Toluca was struggling to keep up with demand.

Imagine, an affordably priced domestic brand car that was that hot in California, of all places. The only other domestic cars I can think of that achieved that sort of hype there in the past 30 years or so would maybe be Teslas, and those are pretty different animals.

It was the right product at the right time, and a big hit right when DCX really needed one. I suppose the trouble was that the novelty of the styling wore off once they were all over the place, and that Chrysler didn’t do enough to keep the car up with the times.

Bryan doesn't drive a 1M > ranwhenparked
08/23/2019 at 23:17

Yeah, the novelty thing is a blessing and a curse for a lot of cars that end up being a flash in the pan.

Smooth 1000 > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
08/24/2019 at 01:11

I enjoyed my PT. I would love to have enough cash (yes, I know they are cheap but do not have the cash ) to buy another one, garage it and laugh all the way to the bank in 20 years when it becomes a classic.

IDRIVENEON > Bryan doesn't drive a 1M
08/24/2019 at 16:29

A string of bad decisions has led me to owning a pile of neons (one being an SRT4) and a “touring edition” PT (non turbo). I plan on putting an SRT wheel in my PT because I hate the boat wheel so much.

It is a decent car to drive though and somewhat comfortable. It is currently the best $200 car I’ve ever bought.